Transcript of Nov 10, 2020 Hearing




Source: L.A. Superior Court


On November 10, 2020, a hearing regarding three petitions in Britney Spears's conservatorship case took place at the Stanley Mosk Courthouse.


A transcript of the hearing was included in a petition filed by Britney's attorney, Mathew Rosengart, on July 26, 2021.


Highlights include:


Judge Brenda Penny denied the withdrawn of petition for the reinstatement of Andrew Wallet as co-conservator of Britney's estate (following his urgent resignation in 2019), along with a denial of the accompanying petition to seal the request for reinstatement.


Samuel Ingham had previously opposed Jamie's request to seal the 12th accounting and now withdrew his opposition, so Judge Brenda Penny ordered that the documents be sealed.


The petition to instate professional fiduciaries Bessemer Trust as co-conservator of Britney's estate was debated. This included statements from Vivian Thoreen requesting that all the paperwork on the matter be thoroughly and repeatedly explained in the court record.


The video & audio of the hearing went out immediately after Samuel Ingham said, "I am requesting that the court visit the issue about suspending Mr. Spears." When everyone in the hearing is reconnected, Mr. Ingham requests that Judge Brenda Penny consider suspending Jamie Spears based on arguments he can present. Although under Probate Code Section 2654 this request does not require advance notice or an evidentiary hearing, Vivien Thoreen argues against Mr. Ingham's request. Judge Brenda Penny acknowledges that she has the power to suspend Jamie Spears as conservator right then, she declines to do so and prefers that paperwork be filed first.


Vivien Thoreen does this thing again with asking whether new statements on a topic can be different from previous statements. Like, Does time & language work that way, your honor?


Vivien Thoreen recounts a narrative of the initiation of the conservatorship, including the assertion that Britney's estate was in debt. This contradicts the first accounting of the conservatorship, which shows that the cash assets on hand not held in Britney's living trust dropped by half over the course of the first year of the conservatorship, even with Bryan Spears pulling $3.8 million out of the trust. The only debts listed are mortgages on two homes. The estate had enough funds to pay $3.1 million in legal & accounting costs associated with the conservatorship, including payments to Vivien Thoreen, as well as over half a million to the co-conservators for their services controlling her property & person.


Tri-Star Sports & Entertainment was still managing the estate's funds at this time.


Mr. Ingham lists a variety of accounting & business management actions by Jamie that Mr. Ingham contends are "highly disadvantageous and inappropriate" for Britney Spears.


Mr. Ingham describes Britney as "a high-functioning conservatee".


Regarding Jamie, Mr. Ingham states, "If what I am saying about my client's state of mind, my client's wishes is correct, he has been in deep trouble as conservator." Mr. Ingham goes on to testify, "my client has informed me on many occasions that she is afraid of her father. She has also informed me on many occasions that she will not perform as long as her father is in charge of her career."


Mr. Ingham also states, "This is a voluntary conservatorship. As long as my client's choice of conservator is reasonable, I think that she should be allowed to work with a qualified corporate fiduciary of her choice." [There is nothing in the original application for conservatorship indicating that the arrangement is voluntary.]


Ms. Thoreen accuses Mr. Ingham of hearsay by making statements in court on behalf of his client.


Gladstone Jones makes a statement on behalf of Britney's mother, Lynne Spears. This includes a recounting of Jamie stating that his daughter needs to be handled like a race horse. Lynne supports Britney's request for Jamie to be replaced with "a new professional bank of sole conservator of the estate." Mr. Jones also references 18 months of the court hearing Britney's complaints about Jamie. Lynne contends that Jamie imposes "unreasonable and debilitating demands on Britney."


Mr. Jones also refers to the conservatorship as "voluntary".


Ms. Thoreen complains that Mr. Ingham makes the contradictory claims often repeated by the attorneys and conservators running Britney's conservatorship that Britney is both high-functioning and incapable of signing legal documents.


Judge Brenda Penny ordered that Bessemer Trust be instated as co-conservator of the estate of Britney Spears.


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